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Post by jeremy on Jul 26, 2018 0:39:28 GMT -5
We had a '96 Concorde. Big comfortable car, with performance (3.5, ind. suspension front and rear, 4 wheel discs) that was quite surprising. Really wanted to line it up against my friends GP with 3800, but never had the chance. Those were amazing cars when they came out. I remember well. The end of the formal roofline era. I don't know much about the 3.5, but the modding potential of the GP with the SC 3800 is substantial. That is a serious low dollar hot rod.
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Post by DynoDave on Jul 26, 2018 5:21:06 GMT -5
The GPs were popular with kids for a long time with the supercharged 3800. I've not seen much modding done with he original SOHC 3.5, but with aluminum heads, 4 valves per cylinder, SOHC, and a staged intake with twin throttle bodies, the 215 HP longitudinally mounted 3.5 was a good engine IMO. It would have been a good match between the 200 HP std. 3800 which my friends GP had.
Yes, they were the beginning of Cab Forward Design, begun in earnest with these cars at Chrysler, and spread throughout the industry. They were big and roomy inside. Biggest family sedan I've owned since my '77 Dodge Royal Monaco Brougham C-body. And probably comparable in interior and trunk space.
While I loved it, I must admit that my particular car was a poster child for mid-90's Chrysler quality problems. Bad A/C components (bulletin and revised parts), bad control head (known issue), bad sway bar links (known issue), and ultimately drinking coolant and running hot (likely head gaskets, which to my knowledge they are NOT known for), we did not even come close to getting a full life out of that car, and had to sell it on for peanuts.
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Post by jeremy on Jul 26, 2018 15:44:09 GMT -5
IMO the Chryslers were the best looking family cars of 90's. The last time I went car shopping I considered the 300M, but the reliability issues scared me away. I ended up with an SC Riviera and have had few problems with it. Oddly enough I saw people trying to sell Corollas for half as much money with twice the mileage, I guess it is the go-to car for people who don't want to know anything about cars.
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Post by Tom on Jul 26, 2018 18:45:23 GMT -5
LOL....I'd rather have the 90's Corolla with 5 speed than any of the cars that Chrysler built in the late 90's with exception of the Viper of course.
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Post by hanks73340 on Jul 27, 2018 7:17:00 GMT -5
Yeh....the 90's were kind of a dead decade for all the auto makers. The Vipers were awesome and still love em today.
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Post by jeremy on Jul 27, 2018 20:31:10 GMT -5
Yeh....the 90's were kind of a dead decade for all the auto makers. The Vipers were awesome and still love em today. Man, I don't agree with that. There were tons of good 90's cars I'd collect if I had the time to drive them and insurance for a car collection was reasonable. I'd have the 4th Gen Z/28 and Trans Am, a Lincoln Mk VIII, an Eldorado, a 300M, maybe a New Yorker, a Mercedes SL and the Jag XK8, a C5 Vette, the 1st gen Olds Aurora, the Caprice Impala SS and Buick Roadmaster wagon. All of the SC 3800 cars have serious modding potential. I can't recall if the GTO came out in the 90s or not, but that's another one I'd have. I'd take any of the Japanese GT's, although I'm more of a domestic guy. The Lexus IS and SC's have a lot of potential. Police Crown Vics are cheap as dirt now and an endless source of low-buck entertainment. None of these are my all-time dream cars, but in that category I'd take a Diablo, XJ220, Vector W8, F40 or Testatrossa over the current crop of supercars that are way too fast for me.
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Post by hanks73340 on Jul 28, 2018 7:50:26 GMT -5
Yeh....the 90's were kind of a dead decade for all the auto makers. The Vipers were awesome and still love em today. Man, I don't agree with that. There were tons of good 90's cars I'd collect if I had the time to drive them and insurance for a car collection was reasonable. I'd have the 4th Gen Z/28 and Trans Am, a Lincoln Mk VIII, an Eldorado, a 300M, maybe a New Yorker, a Mercedes SL and the Jag XK8, a C5 Vette, the 1st gen Olds Aurora, the Caprice Impala SS and Buick Roadmaster wagon. All of the SC 3800 cars have serious modding potential. I can't recall if the GTO came out in the 90s or not, but that's another one I'd have. I'd take any of the Japanese GT's, although I'm more of a domestic guy. The Lexus IS and SC's have a lot of potential. Police Crown Vics are cheap as dirt now and an endless source of low-buck entertainment. None of these are my all-time dream cars, but in that category I'd take a Diablo, XJ220, Vector W8, F40 or Testatrossa over the current crop of supercars that are way too fast for me. You're gonna need a big building for all that. Ok.....maybe the Impala SS and the 4th gens, but the rest just didn't appeal to me. Maybe it was the styling and the cheap parts and just could never get past that. oh well....
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Post by jeremy on Jul 28, 2018 17:47:17 GMT -5
I forgot to add the first gen Miata, with the Exocet conversion. It's a budget Ariel Atom.
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Post by brigond on Jul 29, 2018 0:33:19 GMT -5
The 90s, IMO was the turn around decade for American cars.
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Post by jeremy on Jul 30, 2018 7:14:05 GMT -5
The only thing holding back the 90's cars is FWD. Years back there was a company that was planning to make electric wheel motors. I think they got swallowed up by a bigger company, and the wheel motors didn't happen, but the technology was sound. Anyway, if you had that and an advanced battery that could sit in the spare tire well, you could transform the lame old FWD cars into AWD speed machines. Imagine an AWD Neon SRT4 with electric motor torque.
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