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Post by Nacho-RT74 on Mar 20, 2009 19:22:18 GMT -5
who knows then, but too much casuality several cars allong USA got those on same locations
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Post by Jer on Mar 20, 2009 22:24:36 GMT -5
Like I said, Nacho, I could be hugely wrong...it wouldn't be the first time. But I don't think it's so much of a coincidence that "several cars" have them, but rather more of an "art imitates life"....one guy did it first, the others thought it was cool. A RELEVANT ANALOGY:I remember in the early 70's when Mack Trucks were produced with a chrome Bulldog ornament mounted at the front (top) of the hood.... All of a sudden it seemed like every Big Truck in California not only had the Bulldog ornament, but many if not most of them had a Bulldog with LIGHTED EYES (wired to the electrical system of course).... This was NOT something that Mack Trucks ever produced, nor were the GOLD Bulldogs that later started appearing on trucks throughout the state (or throughout the country for all I know!). What I'm trying to say, is that it doesn't take long for a cool idea to catch on and be copied, and that trying to find that first guy that did it would be next to impossible. But finding factory documentation concerning any part of our cars SHOULDN'T be an impossibility...and so far I've seen no such thing, nor have I ever witnessed any of this mini-magnum badge issue, back when the original cars were being sold!! That's the problem with having people still alive that can easily remember the days when a certain car was being built!! Damned Ol' Timers, anyway.
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Post by DynoDave on Mar 21, 2009 9:32:46 GMT -5
I have kind of quasi-followed this post. My car, living in about 1oo little boxes, and having parts scattered across two states, is SOOOO far from being reassembled, that when it comes to posts about fine details like emblem location, and tend not too pay close attention. To add to the confusion, allow me to post a few pictures from a '72 parts manual. This one shows the location of the fender emblems. Even in person, it is VERY hard to see this emblem in any detail. It is very faintly drawn, but it does show engine displacement (440 in this case) followed by the word MAGNUM, with Charger script above it. Lets see what those part #s are.There were 3 pages of images for the different models, but the other 2 only listed a 400Magnum emblem, this one showed both 400 and 440Magnum emblems, so I posted it. No 340Magnum emblem, so that leaves me out. I only have NOS fenders, so I didn't know if there had been holes in the originals. I don't recall them, and this seems to confirm that. Looks good so far. Note there are no production dates associated with this emblem, so that would imply full year production. Lets see if there's a clearer picture of that emblem. Since the pictures above (black car) are 440Magnum, let's look that part up, #3613512 (got a little fuzzy shooting up close..sorry). Uh oh...no 3613512 in the numerical index! Well, the drawing also referenced page 12-15-21. Maybe there? Nope! So did they make production? I don't know, but it's interesting.
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Post by Jer on Mar 21, 2009 23:08:12 GMT -5
Wow. That's a lot of work, Dave, and I join every one in a round of applause for your astute detective/investigation work! Seriously! So far--based on the non existent part number in the index--I'm wondering if the top drawing isn't misleading.?? #Thinking# #Thinking# #Thinking# Hey, I know.....we need to need to steal a hood call-out (we only need 1) from an E-body Shaker car and see what the part number is on the back of the badge!! Guy Noir...Radio Detective, aka DynoDave !! ;D [Wonder where I can get me 2 of those 2836772 "DODGE TAXI" badges?]
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Post by quapman on Mar 22, 2009 7:25:46 GMT -5
Those 440 emblems are definitely Challenger. I would guess the "survivor" ones are dealer installed. They would have had pins, but these probably get knocked off and the emblems attached with adhesive.
The "Charger" fender emblems I've seen have all been centered (top to bottom) on the fender. Pretty much at the apex of the fender buldge. Usually, the rectangular red/black/chrome "arrow" is next to "Charger".
Sorry, this does not address the original question.
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Post by charger440sixpac on Mar 25, 2009 12:31:18 GMT -5
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Post by DynoDave on Mar 25, 2009 13:06:54 GMT -5
Those 440 emblems are definitely Challenger. I would guess the "survivor" ones are dealer installed. They would have had pins, but these probably get knocked off and the emblems attached with adhesive. The "Charger" fender emblems I've seen have all been centered (top to bottom) on the fender. Pretty much at the apex of the fender buldge. Usually, the rectangular red/black/chrome "arrow" is next to "Charger". Sorry, this does not address the original question. I think the original question was if an adhesive or sealant should be used under an emblem. But it's been a long post. What question did we miss? Cool piicture charger440sixpac! It's a little washed out, but it looks like #2 in that drawing is a Super Bee emblem, right?
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Post by Nacho-RT74 on Mar 25, 2009 14:34:51 GMT -5
great pic... but that's for 71
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Post by charger440sixpac on Mar 26, 2009 20:37:18 GMT -5
Yes, it's for 1971 and it is a SB emblem in the drawing. I made a copy of this from Barry's site before the Chrysler people made him take all the drawings down. The interesting point is there isn't any indication of an engine call-out emblem shown for 1971... #Thinking# Before you ask, I only grabbed copies of the drawings relevant to the 1971 Charger... I didn't copy any of the 72-4 stuff, sorry...
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Post by mopartybob on Aug 1, 2015 22:33:14 GMT -5
I remember someone reported as saying this emblem goes on the sail panel, 72 rallye charger hardtop,can anyone confirm this, Thanks Robert
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